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12- Dyspnea - Polypnea

Important

Symptomatic care:

Curative care:

Treat PCP in practice (patient non allergic sulfa)

 

20-29 kg

30-39 kg

40-49kg

BACTRIM (80mg trim+400mg sulfa)

2co/ 8hours

2.5co/ 8hours

3co/ 8hours

!!!  If patients do not take the drugs at exactly 8 hour intervals or if patients occasionally vomit the drugs, it is better to divide the drugs into 4 equal doses and/or to increase the doses a little bit to avoid a "gap” or absence of drug coverage in the blood...  We had bad experiences in the past because in our hospice drug distribution is not scheduled at 3 equal intervals during the day.  We must consider the distribution schedule also when prescribing drugs.

!!!  Patient can be so severely ill and taking drugs can be so difficult that it is often better to interrupt TB treatment when starting PCP treatment...

!!!  For us "chronic PCP" does not exist.  It is better to consider that the diagnosis was wrong.  It is useless and even dangerous to administer a high dose of Bactrim to a patient if the lungs are not clearly better (without corticoids) after one week...!!!

!!!  Concurrent treatment of pneumonia with PCP treatment is sometimes possible... in confusing cases that can be a secure option!!!

If patient has too many pills a day; we sometimes choose to treat him with trimethoprim + dapsone even if he is not allergic to sulfa... but this alternative is not recommend for severe cases of PCP...

Acute infection with dyspnea/polypnea + focal signs (crepitations, low vesicular murmurs in one lobe, etc) Usually NO CYANOSIS!

IF nothing is working in sub-acute context...

(One of the most difficult challenges for us...)

The patient is going to die from lung disease.  Both pneumonia and PCP treatment are not active... severe dyspnea/polypnea... with or without symmetrical auscultation... with or without bronchospasm, with or without cyanosis...

Disease is too acute to be a "normal" TB and not generalized enough to be milliary TB...

A last challenge is to be made because in dyspneic context, without morphine, "palliative cares" is not an operational concept (see "Introduction") and because without a lab, in such context, hope is always permitted if the patient still has a strong body...

Now, after many bad experiences, our policy is:

- Stop all drugs, including TB treatment

- Lincocin IM 300mg.x2-3 + fluconazole PO 200mg.x2

- Symptomatic cares as needed, including dexamethasone... (knowing that dexa is dangerous in CMV infection... emergency is emergency, patient is already going to die!)

NB Erythromycin + fluconazole or even metronidazole + fluconazole can be alternative challenges... but for us more failure...

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